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Ангела 🌙solicitó una traducción hace 7 años
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если я берусь за какое-то дело то...

Traducciones de usuarios (4)

  1. 1.

    When I set my mind to (doing) something...

    Traducción agregada por ⁌ ULY ⁍
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  2. 2.

    WHEN I take something on...

    Traducción agregada por ⁌ ULY ⁍
    Oro ru-en
    5
  3. 3.

    WHEN I set about doing something...

    Traducción agregada por ⁌ ULY ⁍
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    4
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    если я берусь за какое-то дело, то...

    Editado

    when I get my teeth into a job, ...

    Traducción agregada por Alexander Аkimov
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⁌ ULY ⁍publicó un comentario hace 7 años

+++Alex (good instincts!)

⁌ ULY ⁍publicó un comentario hace 7 años

“get down to work/business/the matter at hand” is an idiom that means to skip formalities and begin working. In this post, I believe the meaning is that when you focus on a task, you put everything into it. That idiom doesn’t work here.

Alexander Аkimovpublicó un comentario hace 7 años

Got it, thanks. In meetings, I heard something like “Well, let’s get down to real work.”

⁌ ULY ⁍publicó un comentario hace 7 años

Exactly. Let’s stop the chitchat and start the actual meeting.

⁌ ULY ⁍publicó un comentario hace 7 años

A dictionary can use SOMETHING like this because it’s presenting a pattern. But an individual in the real world wouldn’t say “When I get down to something” he would say “LET’S get down to business/work/the matter at hand” but “When I take something on/set my mind to doing something/set about doing something, etc.”

Alexander Аkimovpublicó un comentario hace 7 años

...or get down to DOING something, but not get down TO SOMETHING

⁌ ULY ⁍publicó un comentario hace 7 años

We don’t say “when I get down to doing something” either - not in this context.

⁌ ULY ⁍publicó un comentario hace 7 años

If I understood the Russian correctly, it means that when the speaker goes about doing something in earnest, no?

Alexander Аkimovpublicó un comentario hace 7 años

DOING is also a pattern: “It’s time you got looking for a job.”

Alexander Аkimovpublicó un comentario hace 7 años

...and what is “in earnest”?

Elena Bogomolovapublicó un comentario hace 7 años

It's not necessarily in earnest. At least, it's not clear as there is no context. Браться можно за чтение книги, мытье посуды и т. д.

⁌ ULY ⁍publicó un comentario hace 7 años

Yes, but that’s a different context. In that context, GET LOOKING implies that the person is lazy or unambitious. In this post, the meaning is one of seriously setting about doing something with no nuance of laziness or lack of ambition.

⁌ ULY ⁍publicó un comentario hace 7 años

in earnest means по-настоящему, всерьез, без дураков, и т.д.

⁌ ULY ⁍publicó un comentario hace 7 años

Here, the speaker specifically says “за какое-то дело,” which means that the next sentiment is probably “I don’t fool around” or “I take it very seriously” or something along those lines. So the insinuation is that “when he starts/decides/sets about doing something in earnest, (he takes it very seriously).”

Alexander Аkimovpublicó un comentario hace 7 años

Yes, БРАТЬСЯ за дело implies seriously.

⁌ ULY ⁍publicó un comentario hace 7 años

= in earnest)))

⁌ ULY ⁍publicó un comentario hace 7 años

All the translations I posted express this - as does “get my teeth into” 👍🏼

Alexander Аkimovpublicó un comentario hace 7 años

Я НАЧАЛ мыть посуду - мне лень, но приходится это делать.
Я ВЗЯЛСЯ мыть посуду - я должен это сделать по-настоящему, качественно, то есть делать это серьёзно, ответственно.

⁌ ULY ⁍publicó un comentario hace 7 años

Exactly! 👍🏼

⁌ ULY ⁍publicó un comentario hace 7 años

Consequently, your first translation “When I start...” doesn’t really work here either. It doesn’t imply “in earnest”

Elena Bogomolovapublicó un comentario hace 7 años

я думаю, "взяться за" означает и "начать что-то делать"

Alexander Аkimovpublicó un comentario hace 7 años

Agree: start doing sth doesn’t mean in earnest. I removed it. “When I get my teeth into dishwashing, a couple of teeth get lost, and 3 or 4 plates get broken.”

⁌ ULY ⁍publicó un comentario hace 7 años

hahahahahahaha

⁌ ULY ⁍publicó un comentario hace 7 años

You won’t be washing dishes at my house anytime soon!

Alexander Аkimovpublicó un comentario hace 7 años

Yes, no hope to fly over there again.
By the way, another related idiom:
Я взялся за дело = I got down to business = I rolled up my sleeves.

⁌ ULY ⁍publicó un comentario hace 7 años

roll up your sleeves 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

Ангела 🌙publicó un comentario hace 7 años

если я берусь за какое-то дело,то должна быть в нем первой (лидером)

⁌ ULY ⁍publicó un comentario hace 7 años

Anytime I take something on, I have to be at the helm.

Ангела 🌙publicó un comentario hace 7 años

i have to be звучит как будто мне кто-то сказал ,что я должна.а на деле я сама этого хочу значит must

Alexander Аkimovpublicó un comentario hace 7 años

Мне придётся - почему это КТО-ТО сказал или принудил?
«Чтобы победить мне придётся усиленно тренироваться». Это просто условие для того, чтобы победить.

⁌ ULY ⁍publicó un comentario hace 7 años

Amelia, HAVE TO is used instead of MUST in modern English in the sense of obligation. It does NOT imply that someone told to do something - it can refer to a personal obligation. MUST is used in the sense that you definitely need to do something like watch a movie, or try a new restaurant: “You MUST see this movie - you’ll love it!”

⁌ ULY ⁍publicó un comentario hace 7 años

I don’t need a lesson - English is my first language)))

⁌ ULY ⁍publicó un comentario hace 7 años

Whatever. This is my last day on this site anyway. Enjoy!

Ангела 🌙publicó un comentario hace 7 años

why did it hurt you??i meant nothing bad

Ангела 🌙publicó un comentario hace 7 años

we all appreciate your translations!why do you need to leave the app

Ангела 🌙publicó un comentario hace 7 años

we all appreciate your translations!why do you need to leave the app

Ангела 🌙publicó un comentario hace 7 años

we all appreciate your translations!why do you need to leave the app

Ангела 🌙publicó un comentario hace 7 años

we all appreciate your translations!why do you need to leave the app

Ангела 🌙publicó un comentario hace 7 años

we all appreciate your translations!why do you need to leave the app

Ангела 🌙publicó un comentario hace 7 años

we all appreciate your translations!why do you need to leave the app

Alexander Аkimovpublicó un comentario hace 7 años

S Ameliya,
It's not an easy thing for a native speaker, professional linguist, and translator to stand constant arguing from people who only learned some English out of Soviet textbooks and dictionaries. Uly came here to improve his Russian and help English learners improve their English.
Instead, the one and only native speaker here on Lingvo who knows all ins and outs of the English language has every day to respond to comments, just to get across the correct and live language to those who are ready to learn... and not only teach.

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