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максим грековsolicitou a tradução 7 лет назад
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Geraldine was none the less astonished

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  1. 1.

    Но это нисколько (/ни в малейшей степени) на развеяло сомнения Джералдина

    Tradução adicionada por grumbler
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⁌ ULY ⁍adicionou o comentário 7 лет назад

Grumbler, this is actually correct with “none the less.” It belongs to the pattern “none the +[comparative]”: Even though Mr. Harrington was a millionaire, upon his death, his children were none the richer since he left all his money to his second wife. -or- I took $20 from the cookie jar before my mother counted the money, so she was none the wiser. -or- He became convinced that his illness was purely imaginary: that made it none the better.

grumbleradicionou o comentário 7 лет назад

была поражена не в меньшей степени?
Сам добавляй.

⁌ ULY ⁍adicionou o comentário 7 лет назад

I don’t know how to say this in Russian. It means that she wasn’t astonished before, and this time nothing changed - she was still not astonished.

grumbleradicionou o comentário 7 лет назад

не понял...
none the richer - не богаче ?
none the better - не лучше ?
none the less - не БОЛЬШЕ ? (astonished than before)

⁌ ULY ⁍adicionou o comentário 7 лет назад

- не меньше

⁌ ULY ⁍adicionou o comentário 7 лет назад

Все это, чтобы сказать, что она осталась равнодушной.

grumbleradicionou o comentário 7 лет назад

тогда не получается
поражена НЕ МЕНЬШЕ, чем раньше
значит, была сильно поражена и сейчас поражена так же или больше
??

⁌ ULY ⁍adicionou o comentário 7 лет назад

Так же = по-прежнему совсем не поражена

grumbleradicionou o comentário 7 лет назад

Не, мне это не понять.
А почему не "Так же = по-прежнему поражена "?
Если раньше была "совсем не поражена" и сейчас тоже, то имеет смысл сказать, что сейчас поражена НЕ БОЛЬШЕ, чем раньше.

⁌ ULY ⁍adicionou o comentário 7 лет назад

Because they must have use LITTLE previously: When she read the proposal, she was little astonished at how much the city would benefit from the project and demanded a review. When she read the revised proposal, she was none the less astonished: the new figures indicated that the city stood to benefit even more than in the first proposal.

grumbleradicionou o comentário 7 лет назад

was little impressed by the figures (not impressed)
now she isn't impressed again = impressed NOT MORE than she was before.

There is something here that I can't grasp. Can it be something like, say, double negative in Russian, that is illogical and impossible to understand logically?

⁌ ULY ⁍adicionou o comentário 7 лет назад

It’s hard to define - the writer is being somewhat sarcastic.

grumbleradicionou o comentário 7 лет назад

I give up... At least until the morning.

"The Colonel breathed again. If Mr. Malthus had frequented the place for two years there could be little danger for the Prince in a single evening. But Geraldine was none the less astonished, and began to suspect a mystification."

"Полковник вздохнул с облегчением. Если мистер Мальтус целых два года посещает этот притон, то навряд ли принца ожидает опасность в первый же вечер. Впрочем, Джеральдин терялся в догадках. Уж не водят ли их с принцем за нос?"
http://librebook.me/the_suicide_club/vol1/1

⁌ ULY ⁍adicionou o comentário 7 лет назад

Ah, good, a context. This means that on the one hand, he was relieved to see that someone who had been coming to the club for two years was alright, but was, ALL THE SAME, astonished... This is an old way of saying “was no less astonished.”

⁌ ULY ⁍adicionou o comentário 7 лет назад

но и так был (все же?) поражен (??)

grumbleradicionou o comentário 7 лет назад

Не знаю. Мне кажется, значение просто такое же, как и у nonetheless/nevertheless
Т.е., да - все же, все-таки, тем не менее, однако, несмотря на это, впрочем

⁌ ULY ⁍adicionou o comentário 7 лет назад

There’s a difference. “Nonetheless“ is a conjunction like any other. However, “none the less” and “no less” are used to describe the degree to which someone is astonished, surprised, angered, moved, etc.

⁌ ULY ⁍adicionou o comentário 7 лет назад

“Even though my son came in second at the swim meet, I was none the less/no less proud of him.“

⁌ ULY ⁍adicionou o comentário 7 лет назад

👍🏼

⁌ ULY ⁍adicionou o comentário 7 лет назад

+++Grumbler

⁌ ULY ⁍adicionou o comentário 7 лет назад

Just know that in modern English, we don’t use “none the less,” we use “no less.”

grumbleradicionou o comentário 7 лет назад

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