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C O S M Oспросил перевод 6 месяцев назад
Как перевести? (ru-en)

Как она тебе? Ничего, приятная женщина.

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Требуется вежливый перевод

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  1. 1.

    What do you think of her? - She's alright, a nice woman.

    Перевод добавил Lena Feok
    Бронза ru-en
    6
  2. 2.

    - How do you like her?

    - Well, I think she's nice.

    Перевод добавил Elena Bogomolova
    Золото ru-en
    4

Обсуждение (47)

Tatiana Gerasimenkoдобавила комментарий 6 месяцев назад

- What do you think about her?
- Oh, she looks like a nice woman.

🇺🇸 Uly 🐝добавил комментарий 6 месяцев назад

Tatiana: ...think OF her? ...nice LADY.

🇺🇸 Uly 🐝добавил комментарий 6 месяцев назад

+++Elena!

🇺🇸 Uly 🐝добавил комментарий 6 месяцев назад

Spoken like a true native!

Elena Bogomolovaдобавил комментарий 6 месяцев назад

🌝

🇺🇸 Uly 🐝добавил комментарий 6 месяцев назад

Lena, “she’s alright” sounds like “meh... I guess she’s ok” - like you’re not too sure.

Tatiana Gerasimenkoдобавила комментарий 6 месяцев назад

Хорошо, поняла. 👍

Lena Feokдобавил комментарий 6 месяцев назад

“she’s alright” sounds like “meh... I guess she’s ok” - like you’re not too sure

Seriously???
She's alright = like you’re not too sure???
She's alright-=|'m absolutely sure

I guess she’s ok” = I guess she’s alright
The KEY WORD is GUESS. Then you can sound like you're not too sure.

🇺🇸 Uly 🐝добавил комментарий 6 месяцев назад

Using ALRIGHT to describe anything sounds like you’re not too sure if you like it/them or not, but will settle for it for lack of a better option. That’s why it’s normally expressed with “I guess” which is very tentative. In another context, to say that a person is alright implies that they’re safe/better after an accident, illness or tragedy. https://books.google.com/books?id=ZokHu7QWDc4C&pg=PA22&dq=%22he%27s+alright%22&hl=en&ppis=_c&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwip5vHy5-zmAhUCH80KHdckBI0Q6AEwAnoECAIQAg#v=onepage&q=%22he's%20alright%22&f=false

🇺🇸 Uly 🐝добавил комментарий 6 месяцев назад

You obviously didn’t have I GUESS in your translation, but that’s how we would most likely read it. ALRIGHT or OK aren’t the best choice in this post because here the speaker seems to genuinely LIKE the woman.

🇺🇸 Uly 🐝добавил комментарий 6 месяцев назад

Hopefully these references will help you see the error of your translation and support my comments regarding it.

Lena Feokдобавил комментарий 6 месяцев назад

What is it to do with "just alright"??

You can make anything sound doubtful or confident.

Say it with an intonation of doubt and it WILL sound doubtful.
She's ok/alright = (I'm really not sure).

Say it with an intonation of full confidence and it WILL sound absolutely confident.
She's ok/alright = (I'm totally sure).

🇺🇸 Uly 🐝добавил комментарий 6 месяцев назад

Ok, Lena! I personally consider OK and ALRIGHT namby-pamby no matter what intonation you give them and I’d hoped my links would show you that. If you feel happy using them your way, people will understand you)) If someone stressed these words and said He’s ALRIGHT! I would assume that he had been in danger and is now safe. But to each his own - we’re all here to learn by whatever means is easiest and most enjoyable))

Lena Feokдобавил комментарий 6 месяцев назад

What's all this dispute about??
There's nothing even to dispute.
Such a simple thing...

Elena Bogomolovaдобавил комментарий 6 месяцев назад
“They can be used to indicate that the quality of something is "satisfactory but not exceptionally or especially good"

In Russian "ничего, хорошая женщина" may mean the same - satisfactory but not exceptionally or especially good".
When my father used to ask me Как дела? and heard my answer Ничего, he would say "ничего - пустое место".

🇺🇸 Uly 🐝добавил комментарий 6 месяцев назад

Good to know! So is that the meaning here? It he saying “She’s (just) ok... nice lady.” ?

Tatiana Gerasimenkoдобавила комментарий 6 месяцев назад

In Russian, "ничего, хорошая женщина" may mean the same - satisfactory but not exceptionally or especially good".
I can't fully agree. It's ничего that may mean "satisfactory, but not exceptionally good" or may even mean "quite good". At the same time, adding хорошая leaves little room for doubt. So, their meaning is that they find her quite nice.

🇺🇸 Uly 🐝добавил комментарий 6 месяцев назад

Thank you for the confirmation. that’s exactly what I pointed out in the first place to Lena, and her response was “Seriously???” Note above that I never said her translation was incorrect - I just clarified the meaning of ALRIGHT since I wasn’t sure what the Russian meant.

Tatiana Gerasimenkoдобавила комментарий 6 месяцев назад

Yes, to some older people, ничего may sound neutral or close to a negative spectrum, but it obtained a pretty positive connotation in the modern language. If someone said: А она ничего!, I would take it as a compliment (in this case used in reference of someone's apperance).

🇺🇸 Uly 🐝добавил комментарий 6 месяцев назад

That’s what I thought too. I once heard someone refer to another’s apartment as ничего and the translation was that it was nice. That’s why I pointed it out to Lena.

Tatiana Gerasimenkoдобавила комментарий 6 месяцев назад

Exactly. Quite a lot of people would go with ничего instead of хороший, приятный, симпатичный, вкусный as in А она ничего такая/А квартирка-то ничего.

🇺🇸 Uly 🐝добавил комментарий 6 месяцев назад

Good! Thank you. So I’m not crazy)))

Elena Bogomolovaдобавил комментарий 6 месяцев назад

Ничего may mean good and quite good and mediocre. A lot depends on the intonation and the context.

🇺🇸 Uly 🐝добавил комментарий 6 месяцев назад

Bingo! And it’s hard to tell what the context is here, which is why I said something.

🇺🇸 Uly 🐝добавил комментарий 6 месяцев назад

Exactly. I was just clarifying that with Lena because I wasn’t sure. I had seen it used both ways.

Tatiana Gerasimenkoдобавила комментарий 6 месяцев назад

Again, let us not talk about dictionaries, let's go back to the sentence in question. I believe there's enough context so we can consider that woman "nice'. Funny enough, Elena's translation screams of it.

🇺🇸 Uly 🐝добавил комментарий 6 месяцев назад

Yes, and the more natural English.

Elena Bogomolovaдобавил комментарий 6 месяцев назад

You said: "ALRIGHT or OK aren’t the best choice in this post because here the speaker seems to genuinely LIKE the woman"
But without a context it's not clear if this person likes her or not.

Elena Bogomolovaдобавил комментарий 6 месяцев назад

My translation is my interpretation and Lena's translation is her interpretation, and they both work in different contexts, but there isn't any context here.

🇺🇸 Uly 🐝добавил комментарий 6 месяцев назад

Now I realize it can mean both after your explanations.

Elena Bogomolovaдобавил комментарий 6 месяцев назад

👍

Tatiana Gerasimenkoдобавила комментарий 6 месяцев назад

I can imagine a context like [- Как она тебе? - Ничего, приятная женщина, ПОКА РОТ НЕ ОТКРОЕТ]. But Cosmos' comment требуется вежливый перевод makes a continuation as unexpected as this one really unlikely. More than that, to me it shows that the context is complete.
Additionally, I can't imagine any different intonation other than a sarcastic one, which also seems to be a little of a stretch here, given this vezhlivost.

Elena Bogomolovaдобавил комментарий 6 месяцев назад

умеренно-положительная оценка вовсе не предполагает сарказма

🇺🇸 Uly 🐝добавил комментарий 6 месяцев назад

Aha! I had forgotten about that comment! That’s what made me question Lena's translation in the first place. It didn’t seem nice enough.

Elena Bogomolovaдобавил комментарий 6 месяцев назад

You said ALRIGHT sounds like you’re not too sure if you like it/them or no. But it's not impolite.

🇺🇸 Uly 🐝добавил комментарий 6 месяцев назад

It is impolite. If someone asked you what you think of someone and you answered that they were alright , that would mean that you like them less than you dislike them.

🇺🇸 Uly 🐝добавил комментарий 6 месяцев назад

In other words, it’s not something you would say to somebody’s face unless you wanted to insult them.

Tatiana Gerasimenkoдобавила комментарий 6 месяцев назад

I would NEVER agree that ничего, приятная женщина implies сносная or mediocre. Talking about some context and intonation that could be essential for interpretation IN THIS VERY CASE seems quite unsustainable to me.

Elena Bogomolovaдобавил комментарий 6 месяцев назад

We're of different opinions here, Tatiana.

Tatiana Gerasimenkoдобавила комментарий 6 месяцев назад

Ну вот видите, ключевое слово - комплимент.))

Elena Bogomolovaдобавил комментарий 6 месяцев назад

там много мнений, и они разные

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