First of all, did YOU write those examples, or were they in a book?
Pink Peonyдобавил заметку 4 years ago
HAVE, GET + object + present participle
Я бы хотела задать вопрос по грамматике.
Я нашла 2 правила, когда данный оборот используют:
1 - to persuade someone to do something:
The teacher had the whole class singing Mary Had a Little Lamb.
The boss got the staff working overtime.
2 - experience something happening to you as a result of something:
We'll have my brother staying with us for a little while until he finds a new apartment.
His problems got him going to hospital for years.
Подскажите, пожалуйста, а в таких оборотах используется
только Present Participle Active?
Потому что я не нашла примеры употребления этого выражения с Present Participle Passive.
Можно ли сказать, напрмер так:
I will have/get this letter being written?
(подразумервая, что я добьюсь, сделаю так чтобы это письмо было написано)
Что-то я запуталась🤔
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They are from this site
Ok. I have to say - I think the examples are terrible. For instance, "we'll have my brother staying with us" doesn't belong in this group because it just means you'll HAVE him at your house. The phrase "to HAVE someone DOING something" means that because of something you do/did... teach, inspire, command, ask, etc., someone is doing something - usually to doer's surprise or annoyance: "On my first day at work, Olga had me cleaning floors, washing windows, feeding children and walking her dogs. I'm supposed to be a personal secretary - not a housekeeper!" Here she was doing these things because Olga asked her to do them - and the speaker wasn't happy. But it's not always bad: "I never considered myself much of a singer, but after just one hour of instruction, Olga had me singing like Whitney Houston."
The phrase "to GET someone DOING something" implies that made someone START to do something they weren't doing or couldn't do before. "When I first started learning Russian, I had zero confidence and never spoke to anyone. Then I had a few conversations with Olga, and that got me speaking every day to anyone who'd listen." (=thanks to Olga, I STARTED doing what I never did before). It's about encouragement and inspiration, or just starting because something triggered you: "See that movie about the pandemic got me thinking about my own future." (=made me start thinking). This is why "The boss got the staff working overtime" sounds so strange to me. Like he inspired them to work overtime. If anything, he HAD them working overtime because he asked/told them to.
Similarly, his problems HAD him going to THE hospital for years... or in better English: HAD him in and out of the hospital for years. Again, GOT him going to the hospital sounds like his problems somehow inspired him to go to the hospital, which sounds extremely strange in any language.
With the past participle, you don’t use any form of the verb TO BE, so “being” doesn’t work in your example. Also, there are again two different meanings: (1) “I’ll get this letter written” is an emphatic statement expressing the determination to complete something no matter what. “I don’t care what happens - I’ll get this essay written before class tomorrow even if it takes all night.” (2) “I’ll have this letter written” can have two meanings (a) I’ll ask someone to write it for me; or (b) the same as GET in (1) above, but with a time element that specifies by when you’ll finish: “I’ll have this letter written by tomorrow morning no matter how long it takes.” -or- “I’ll have the children bathed and dressed by the time you come home from work so we can go straight to your parents house for dinner.”
Действительно, какие ужасные примеры. Особенно про больницу😏
Спасибо за пояснение, я буду разбираться)
👍🏼 😉