🇺🇸 Uly 🐝added a comment 4 years ago
Uh-oh, I smell Russian English...
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Maria Soshnikovaasked for translation 4 years ago
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One trouble with EU as a whole is that what served a club of six or nine well enough no longer looks adequate for a club of 15. Let alone one of 20 or 25, especially one with so many responsibilities.
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One trouble with the EU as a whole is that what served a club of six or nine well enough no longer looks adequate for a club of 15, let alone one of 20 or 25, especially one with so many new responsibilities.
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Discussion (20)
🇺🇸 Uly 🐝added a comment 4 years ago
Yep!!!
grumbleradded a comment 4 years ago
Yep!!!
Well, well ...
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The thing is that the majority of such texts in these Russian textbooks in fact originate from foreign sources.
🇺🇸 Uly 🐝added a comment 4 years ago
Agreed! The difference is that that the original sources are in correct English, with articles and punctuation intact, and the Russian versions are like this post. I’ve learned to spot them miles away.
🇺🇸 Uly 🐝added a comment 4 years ago
Yes, and if you look at your link, all those sites are Russian!
grumbleradded a comment 4 years ago
Well, at least "the" is missing in the original too.
I have to admit, it was one long sentence in the original indeed.
grumbleradded a comment 4 years ago
Yes, deleted that comment.
🇺🇸 Uly 🐝added a comment 4 years ago
Actually, the original has “the EU.” It wouldn’t be English without it.
🇺🇸 Uly 🐝added a comment 4 years ago
Personally, I’m surprised at the amount of energy you’ve put into trying to prove me wrong. Do you not trust my English?
grumbleradded a comment 4 years ago
You are right. My apologies.
🇺🇸 Uly 🐝added a comment 4 years ago
Starting a sentence with LET ALONE is like starting one with НЕ ГОВОРЯ УЖЕ, which I don’t think makes sense in either language.
🇺🇸 Uly 🐝added a comment 4 years ago
Nothing to apologize for! These Runglish posts are disconcerting on every level... and you’re still one of my favorite people 😉
grumbleradded a comment 4 years ago
I trust YOUR English, but you often disagree even with native English writers. This time you were right, but Russians aren't the only ones that make errors.
grumbleradded a comment 4 years ago
In Russian you can easily start a sentence with НЕ ГОВОРЯ *УЖ* - if it was preceded by a pause.
grumbleradded a comment 4 years ago
В интернете много примеров, в т.ч. в reverso.
+https://english-grammar.biz/dictionary/ru-en/не+говоря+уж+о.html
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🇺🇸 Uly 🐝added a comment 4 years ago
I do often disagree with English writers, or more specifically, with their editors and the things they allow to pass as correct English. If you assume that everything that’s in print is perfect English, you’re doing yourself a big disservice. Quite aside from the fact that something written in another decade is not longer acceptable. The other day, I was reading a modern book where the author stated something to the effect of “Today’s youth must needs decide to make spirituality a part of their lives since less and less parents are instilling a spiritual culture in the home.” Must needs??? In this day and age? Nope! I don’t know who’s worse - the writer or his editor.
🇺🇸 Uly 🐝added a comment 4 years ago
Grumbler, there’s a big difference between NOT TO MENTION and LET ALONE in terms of where they can go in a sentence. In this post, they put LET ALONE at the beginning of a separate sentence and that’s a no-no.
🇺🇸 Uly 🐝added a comment 4 years ago
So I guess I was referring to не говоря УЖЕ exclusively.
grumbleradded a comment 4 years ago
ngram со мной не соглашается, но для меня "не говоря УЖЕ" звучит неестественно и во всех примерах, которые я вижу, означает то же самое, что и "не говоря уж".
Следует отметить, что результаты для "уже" почему-то в основном из околонаучных книг.
🇺🇸 Uly 🐝added a comment 4 years ago
👍🏼 interesting!